Daniel O'Connell - Danieli Oconnello

Pochi lo sanno, ma...
nel centro storico di Genova, a due passi dal porto antico, c'è la casa dove è morto Daniel O'Connell.
Questa è la lapide che lo ricorda: da notare la latinizzazione del nome, che declinato al dativo produce uno splendido DANIELI OCONNELLO...

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grazie mille dell'informazione,interessante....
mi vergogno a chiederlo,vivendo qui ed essendo pure una National Tour Guide...ma....

dove e' la tomba?

E con Roma,invece,cosa c'entra Daniel?io ho letto che c'e' un moumento o una lapide eretta x lui dal suo amico Bianconi?
Chi ne sa qlc?
grazie

Anto

So che dopo la morte il corpo è stato portato in Irlanda.
Credo (ma non ne sono sicuro...) che sia somewhere in Dublin.

dovrebbe essere al cimitero monumentale di Glasnevin (Dublin):
il sito ufficiale del cimitero www.glasnevin-cemetery.ie/



From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Glasnevin Cemetery is the main Catholic cemetery in Dublin, the capital of Ireland.


Glasnevin Cemetery
The round tower (centre) stands over the tomb of Daniel O'Connell
Eamon de Valera's grave
His wife, Sinéad, and son, Brian (who was killed in a horse-riding accident in 1936) are buried there also.
A close up view of the gravestone

Monument to Ireland's war dead in World War I
The monument lists those buried in the cemetery who were killed in Irish Regiments of the British Army during the First World War
Glasnevin gravestones
The picture shows a mid nineteenth century plain gravestone (centre) surrounded by versions of celtic crosses, which became the fashion in the late nineteenth century.Established in the middle of the 19th century to replace the old burial grounds within the city, Glasnevin Cemetery contains many historically interesting monuments as well as the graves of all of Ireland's most prominent revolutionary heroes - Charles Stewart Parnell and Daniel O'Connell as well as Michael Collins, Eamon de Valera and Constance Markiewicz a generation later.

The cemetery also offers a fascinating view of the changing style of death monuments in Ireland over the last 200 years; from the austere simple high stone erections of the period up until the 1860s, to the elaborate celtic crosses of the nationalistic revival from the 1860s to 1960s, to the plain Italian marble of the late twentieth century.

Nowadays, Glasnevin fascinates the visitor not only because of its historical graves, but also because of its unique atmosphere of unkept desolation and melancholy abandonment. It is a wasteland of greyish rubble, crumbling, listing, broken or fallen monuments and the occasional contemporary shabbiness that evokes a third-world air in the middle of the burgeoning Celtic Tiger capital.

Glasnevin Cemetery reminds us how very recent Ireland's rise to economic power really is. As yet, the boom town Dublin has not found the time to prettify its past as it is represented at Glasnevin. Broken coverstones through which one may peer into the walled crypts make Glasnevin a memento mori that can no longer be found in most of the developed world's garden cemeteries that aim to pacify, hide and obliterate, not remember, death.

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Famous people buried in Glasnevin Cemetery
Daniel O'Connell - dominant Irish political leader from 1820s to 1840s. O'Connell's tomb under the specially built round tower O'Connell's tomb interior
Charles Stewart Parnell - dominant Irish political leader from 1875 to 1891.
Sir John Grey - Irish 19th century MP. Image of Sir John Grey's gravestone
John Devoy - Fenian leader. Image of John Devoy's grave.
Jeramiah O'Donovan Rossa - Fenian leader. O'Donovan Rossa's grave. Patrick Pearse's speech at his funeral in 1915 has gone down in history.
Edward Cardinal McCabe - late 19th century Archbishop of Dublin & Primate of Ireland. Image of the elaborate monument to Cardinal McCabe.
Michael Collins - assassinated republican leader, Treaty signatory & first internationally recognised Irish head of government.
Arthur Griffith - President of the Irish Republic (January - August 1922).
Harry Boland - friend of Michael Collins and anti-Treaty politician. Image of Harry Boland's grave1
Cathal Brugha - first President of Dáil Éireann (January - April 1919) Image of Cathal Brugha's grave
Robert Erskine Childers - Irish republican and Treaty signatory executed by the Irish Free State government during the Irish Civil War. Erskine Childers' grave, located in the Republican Plot.
Eamon de Valera - 3rd President of Ireland (1959-1973) and dominant leader of 20th century.
Sean T. O'Kelly - 2nd President of Ireland (1945-1959).
Tim Healy - 1st Governor-General of the Irish Free State. image of Tim Healy's grave.
Countess Constance Markiewicz - first woman elected to the British House of Commons and a minister in the first Irish government.
Patrick Routeledge - Minister in Eamon de Valera's early governments.
Sir Roger Casement - Human rights campaigner turned Irish revolutionary, executed by the British in 1916.2 Image of Casement grave
Kevin Barry - a medical student executed by the British for his role in the Irish War of Independence. (His body was moved from prison grounds to Glasnevin in the early 21st century, having been accorded a state funeral.)
Kate Cruise O'Brien - writer & publisher.
James Larkin - Irish trade union leader and founder of the Irish Transport & General Workers Union (ITGWU).
Maud Gonne - nationalist campaigner, love of W.B. Yeats's life, famed beauty and mother of Nobel & Lenin Peace Prize winner Sean MacBride, who is buried in the grave also. Image of Maud Gonne & Sean MacBride's grave
Manchester Martyrs - gravestone honouring three members of the Irish Republican Brotherhood known in history as the Manchester Martyrs who were in fact buried in the grounds of a British prison following their execution by the British for their involvement in a 19th century bombing campaign.
Dermot Morgan - Irish satirist and star of Father Ted.
Peadar Kearney - composer of the Irish National Anthem, Amhrán na bhFiann
Gerard Manley Hopkins - poet
Frank Duff - founder of the Legion of Mary
Anne Devlin - famed housekeeper of Robert Emmet
William Dargan - Ireland's rail pioneer
James Daly - executed for his part in the Connaught Rangers mutiny in 1920
Christy Brown - writer (subject of the film My Left Foot)
Brendan Behan - author and playwright
Pearas Beaslai - Easter Rising survivor turned writer
Thomas Ashe - died on hunger strike in 1917
Danial D. Sheehan - first independent Irish labour MP..
See also List of other famous cemeteries
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External links
Glasnevin Cemetery Official Site (http://www.glasnevin-cemetery.ie)
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Footnotes
1Harry Boland's death features in the film of Michael Collins' life made by Neil Jordan. In reality the manner of his death bore little relationship to the account portrayed in the film.

2Casement's remains (or what purported to be Casement's remains) were exhumed from their previous location in a British prison and returned to Ireland in 1965 where they were granted a state funeral. It has been suggested since that the remains are not Casement's, or rather are not only of Casement. According to reports, when the exhumation took place, it was impossible to clarify which bones belonged to Casement and which to other prisoners buried in the same site in the prison grounds. A set of bones was assembled, but it is not known whether any of Casement's bones were among them.

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasnevin_Cemetery"

Accidenti,non ho mai visto quella targa! Si sa esattamente dove si trova? Dai palazzi davanti al Porto Antico? Voglio vederla

non per niente come ho ufficialmente comunicato agli Stati Generali di Altrairlanda in quel di Montioni in occasione del recente raduno,
la Colonna Genovese é intitolata proprio a Daniel O'Connell

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Scritto da: dubh 26/05/2005 15.05
Accidenti,non ho mai visto quella targa! Si sa esattamente dove si trova? Dai palazzi davanti al Porto Antico? Voglio vederla

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E' in via Ponte Reale (tra piazza Banchi e Caricamento).
... ieri mentre la fotografavo il gestore del bar di fronte mi guardava perplesso...

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Scritto da: fergus 26/05/2005 15.05
non per niente come ho ufficialmente comunicato agli Stati Generali di Altrairlanda in quel di Montioni in occasione del recente raduno,
la Colonna Genovese é intitolata proprio a Daniel O'Connell

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"Colonna Genovese Danieli Oconnello".

Siete dei grandi.

Pensate che io Glasnevin ci passo davanti TUTTI I GIORNI tornando a casa...
ma non sono mai entrata.

Avevo gia sentito della tomba,ma non ero sicura che Daniel fosse proprio li...E quanti altri grandi d'Irlanda!!wow.

Oddio..dire WOW di un cimitero,ora...
So che i cimiteri possono sembrare lugubri ma questo e' un luogo pieno di storia,cavoli!bellissimo.

E di Roma e Daniel cosa mi sapete dire??Che relazione c'e'?
E'vero che c'e' quella lapide/monumento??

Cheers,
A.

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Scritto da: Shamrock80 26/05/2005 15.48

E di Roma e Daniel cosa mi sapete dire??Che relazione c'e'?
E'vero che c'e' quella lapide/monumento??

Cheers,
A.

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Ho trovato questo, dove si parla di Daniel O'Connell e Roma...
guarda se ti può interessare!

Henry Peel OP describes the death and funeral of Daniel O’Connell. After an extraordinary life working for justice and freedom, O’Connell died on his way to Rome in May, 1847.
The tall round tower marking the last resting place of Daniel O'Connell overshadows every other funeral monument in Glasnevin cemetery in Dublin. Daniel O'Connell died at Genoa, in Italy, at 9.35 p.m. on the evening of May 15th, 1847, on his way to Rome.
On May 15, 1847, Father Miley, O'Connell's companion on his last journey, wrote from Genoa: “The Liberator is not better. He is worse – ill as ill can be. At two o'clock this morning I found it necessary to send for the Viaticum and the holy oil. Though it was the dead of night, the cardinal archbishop (he is eighty-eight years old), attended by his clerics and several of the faithful, carried the Viaticum with the solemnities customary in Catholic countries, and reposed it in the tabernacle which we had prepared in the chamber of the illustrious sufferer. Though prostrate to the last degree, he was perfectly in possession of his mind whilst receiving the last rites. The adorable name of Jesus, which he had been in the habit of invoking was constantly on his lips with trembling fervour, His thoughts have been entirely absorbed by religion since his illness commenced. For the last forty hours he will not open his lips to speak of anything else. The doctors still say they have hope. I have none. All Genoa is praying for him. I have written to Rome. Be not surprised if I am totally silent as to our own feelings. It is poor Daniel who is to be pitied more than all.”
Commemoration service
Pope Pius IX gave instructions that a commemoration service for O'Connell should be held in Rome. Two days were given over for the event in the Church of Sant' Andrea Della Valle. An inscription in the Church gives a sense of the occasion: “For Daniel O'Connell, immortal through great deeds, the safeguard and protector of the kingdom of lreland; for his distinguished services to the Christian common wealth, the last due offices of the dead have been performed by the nobles and people of Rome. Whether you be a guest or citizen supplicate heaven with a pure mind for peace and repose for his matchless spirit.”
A funeral oration for O’Connell was preached at the commemoration service. It was in two parts, corresponding to the two days of the commemoration. The preacher was Father Ventura of the Theatine Order, the most outstanding of Italian preachers. He shared O'Connell's outlook on the separation of Church and State, on religious freedom and political principles. His oration was subsequently printed and circulated in the major European languages.
Body to Ireland, heart to Rome
Father Ventura concluded his oration with a brief commentary on O'Connell’s last bequest: “My body to Ireland – my heart to Rome – my soul to heaven”: “What bequests what legacies are these! What can be imagined at the same time more sublime and more pious than such a testament as this! Ireland is his country – Rome is the church – heaven is God. God, the Church and his country – or, in other words, the glory of God, the liberty of the Church, the happiness of his country are the great ends of all his actions – such the noble objects, the only objects of his charity! He loves his country and therefore he leaves to it his body; he loves still more the Church and hence he bequeaths to it his heart; and still more he loves God, and therefore confides to Him his soul! Let us profit then, of this great lesson afforded by a man so great – a man who has done such good service to the Church, to his country, and to humanity.”
First Catholic cemeteries
Acquiring land for Catholic burials had been one of the first issues raised by Daniel O'Connell after he had founded the Catholic Association in May 1823. Proposing that land should be purchased for this purpose O'Connell said that “He did not wish to make it exclusively Catholic; for as the Catholics were desirous not to be separated in this life from their brothers of other persuasions neither did they desire to be separated from them in the passage from this to another world.”
The burial of Catholics in the old Dublin graveyards had continued long after they had become the property of the established Church of Ireland. Some unpleasant incidents when Catholic priests had been prevented from saying prayers at the graveside occasioned the idea of acquiring separate graveyards. The first was Goldenbridge in Inchicore, which was opened for burials in October 1829. Glasnevin cemetery, originally called Prospect cemetery, was opened in February 1832. It was never exclusively Catholic. The great rock of Wicklow granite marking Parnell's grave is sufficient indication of Glasnevin's national character.
Oration for O’Connell
On May 14, 1869, the body of Daniel O'Connell was moved from its original resting place to a newly constructed vault under the monumental round tower. Cardinal Cullen presided over an assembly of ecclesiastical and civil dignitaries and an estimated fifty thousand people. Solemn Mass was sung and an oration given by the most outstanding of Irish preachers, the Dominican Father Tom Burke. To set it in context the Fenian Rising had occurred in 1867 and 1869 was the year when the Act disestablishing the Church of Ireland was passed. Here is a brief extract from the oration: “If we cannot have the blessing of religious unity so as ‘to be all of one mind’ we shall have ‘the next dearest blessing that heaven can give,’ the peace that comes from perfect religious liberty and equality, All this do we owe to the memory of the man we recall today and to the principles he taught us.”

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è un po' prolisso ma se ne parla qui:
www.avirel.it/bd/autori/pellegrini/guida_monumentale_roma/...
Estraggo dal testo:
"Da questa parte rimane il deposito che contiene il cuore di O. Connell scolpito dal cav. Gio. Maria Benzoni, il quale nel bassorilievo inferiore espresse il parlamento di Londra in cui 0. Connell perorò per l'emancipazione dei cattolici. Egli si vede diviso dal consesso dei deputati protestanti per mezzo di una sbarra, poichè come cattolico non vi poteva entrare. Il bassorilievo superiore figura l'Irlanda che col suo velo copre il vaso ov' è riposto il cuore di 0. Connell, mentre un angelo gl'indica il cielo che esso aveva meritato per la perorazione anzidetta. Il monumento gli venne eretto da un tal Bianconi di Milano, il quale per mezzo di lui si fece ricco in Irlanda."
La chiesa è quella di S. lorenzo in Fonte, via Urbana, a Roma (maggiori approfondimenti sulla chiesa qui:
www.romasotterranea.it/ita/sub/140.php)
Sham spero ti possa essere utile!

...questo spiega e dimostra la immediata e peritura amicizia e fratellanza tra la colonna O'Connell genovese...e quella romana...

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Scritto da: rosy71 31/05/2005 20.44
...questo spiega e dimostra la immediata e peritura amicizia e fratellanza tra la colonna O'Connell genovese...e quella romana...

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In effetti questo fa quadrare il cerchio! Ogni cosa ha una spiegazione, ed ecco qui spiegata vita e opere della Colonna Genovese Daniel O'Connell.

WILDUSTY E ROSY
Siete fantastici!!!Grazie di qs interessantissime spiegazioni.
ecco che allora e'tutto vero,del Bianconi e di Danielino...
bene bene,ho imparato qualcosa anche oggi.

AND GOD BLESS DANIEL,THE LIBERATOR....

la colonna genovese degli o'connell gemellata con la colonna romana degli o'neil(o'nille nello slang della capitale )lap

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Scritto da: picchioirish 01/06/2005 19.53
la colonna genovese degli o'connell gemellata con la colonna romana degli o'neil(o'nille nello slang della capitale )lap

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Al prossimo incontro, scambio di sciarpette!

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Scritto da: scottishflag 02/06/2005 11.50

Al prossimo incontro, scambio di sciarpette!

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Eh, quest'incontro, Beck a parte, s'ha ddda fa'!

Salve a tutti,
è la prima volta che scrivo in questo foro.

vorrei sapere se qualcuno di voi, amici irlandofili, mi può dare info su Daniel O' Connell l'avvocato che diede vita al movimento cattolico liberale irlandese.

Salude et trigu

GMA

Iniziamo con una curiosità tutta Italiana...


Daniele Oconnello
www.freeforumzone.it/viewmessaggi.aspx?f=13145&idd=3876

grazie mille.

e invece daniel o'donnell??

Ciao,che info vuoi sapere esattam?
Nato nel 1775 a Caherciveen dove si puo'vedere ancora i resti della casa,e di fronte nel parco un monumneto a lui,quindi un Kerryman d'eccellenza,grande uomo diplomatico che ottenne l'emancipazione dei Cattolici nel 1829 attraverso le sue doti diplomatiche,era un avvocato abbastanza ricco di famiglia,quindi riusci' a entrare nel parlamento Inglese.
Talmente pacifico nei suoi "monster meeting"che facevano accorrere tutta la popolazione Irlandese a sentirlo parlare,che il Parlamento Inglese alla fine cedette,e perfino accetto'la costruzione della statua di un cattolico in centro,nella allora chiamata Sackville St,ora O'Connell St.Incredibile no?
Una statua di un cattolico in pieno centro di Dublino,allora parte del regno uNito e quindi protestante...
Inoltre la chiesa di Caherciveen,dove e' nato,e'dedicata a lui,e posso dirti che la Daniel O'COnnell memorial Church e' L'UNICA CHIESA AL MONDO DEDICATA A UN LAICO!!!!Pazzesco.
Secondo me e' il personaggio Irlandese piu importante della storia.E' morto in un pellegrinaggio verso Roma ma il suo corpo e' in Irlanda,credo nel cimitero di Glasnevin.

Soddisfatto???
Baci Anto

Ciao Anto, grazie delle tue info. Quello che mi intereserebbe sapere è se oggi in Iralnda è riconsciuto per i suoi meriti o è caduto nel dimenticatoio.

C'è qualche partito politico che lo almeno lo cita, lo celebra ?

io ho letto per caso di lui in un libro di Cossiga (notoriamente amante dell'Irlanda). Insomma un personaggio del genere secondo me meriterebbe tanto, non solo per quello che ha fatto per l'irlanda, ma anche per il fatto di essere riuscito a coniugare le lotte liberali (intese come diritto alla libertà) cojn il cattolicelismo. roba non da poco, forse unico esempio in europa e in più nel 700.

La storia della politica irlandese andrebbe insegnata e rivalutata, soprautto in un paese affine per motivi religiosi come l'Italia. Chi sapeva per esempio che l'ostruzionismo è stato inventato dai parlamentari Iralandesi ?

grazie ancora della risposta

Salude @ libbertade

GMA